It appears to me that what you consider facts are actually mere opinions, and no amount of rational debate, based on stats, has any apparent weight. Go look up 3 year trends and career stats etc….the Giants are outperforming their track records….and they will cool off…. I have been a fantasy commissioner for over 30 years now and can name every teams AA and AAA Affiliates and top prospects etc….sorry but I’m not uneducated especially in baseball…. And yet you see Gausman as a fraud at age 30, despite the fact that pitching involves a more complex learning curve, and there are more examples of pitchers figuring it all out at a older age than hitters. La Stella can play 1B when he comes back in July. And you always talk in vague generalities. Obviously I meant the year before as last year was a shortened season and I was typing so fast while in a hot car that I didn’t go over my statement and correct it…. Why would they then turn around and trade a top-ten prospect for him? Now they have a better lineup but the pitching is nowhere close to a Lincecum Cain and MadBum rotation…. BTW, Bellinger just might be overrated, based on 1 MVP season. “To know what a player will do before the season even starts etc?”. . My point is career wise Gausman is a #3 or #4 starter….yes he is pitching way above anyone’s expectations but to think that will continue all season is insane….and after Gausman is a bunch of #4 starters while the Dodgers trot out 3 aces….and 2 perennial MVP candidates…. Has had an 80 RBI season in MLBs last full season(the year b4 last). Brewers? So the Mets, and (looks at pitching WAR for the season) no one else. Kids got the juice, let’s see if he has the sauce, If winning in baseball were as simple as just awarding the WS title to the team with the most “star caliber” players, they wouldn’t even have to play the games. with oddles of control no less than again, they did it with Gallen…Luciano would be the price though, and that’s unlikely. JUNE 25: The Giants placed Brandon Belt on the 10-day injured list with a knee injury today, recalling outfielder LaMonte Wade Jr. in his place, per Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle. @usa while I think some of your takes are weak, and it’s odd that you brag about your three decade plus fantasy commissionership, I am not one of the Giants fans you refer to. Hits for average and for some power. † - 2021 arbitration projections are Let’s see some stats to back up your assertions. Here’s the thing….all these people saying the Giants are WS bound or that they are a WS caliber team but these same people had the Giants winning 74-84 games before the season started…. The reason: Dodgers have no stars. In one of my leagues I had 9 guys on the IL at one time with 5 IL slots….it’s absurd snd the teams missing stats like the Dodgers Bellinger and Seager and the Brewers missing Yelich etc…. All logos are the trademark & property of their owners and not Sports Reference LLC. Full-year historical Major League statistics provided by Pete Palmer and Gary Gillette of Hidden Game Sports. Anyways as a commissioner in fantasy baseball for nearly 35 years I obviously have to follow it closely….prospects and lineups and rotations etc…. None of those players u mentioned are Soto or Yelich or Bellinger or Tatis type players….most are fillers not stars…. They juggled their rotation for the first series, so they could throw Bauer, and Buehler in the first 2 games. Brandon Belt LaMonte Wade Jr. San Francisco Giants Transactions, Scherzer to Giants and a couple other bullpen pieces=world series, Ha ha ha! If the Dodgers do win the division, with the Giants a WC team, chances are the Padres are the other team. Every GM, player, & fan (except you) would take World Series rings over underachievers every time. Wade, an outfielder by trade, can share the first base duties with Darin Ruf while Belt is out. These are facts look up their career track record….what isn’t a fact is how they are performing in 1 season with multiple players out due to injuries or Covid…. Ideal deadline for me: @Brad S….well put….we all may have different opinions on here but to say someone on here knows nothing about baseball is absurd….if we didn’t follow baseball we wouldn’t be here really….except the trolls that post $3500 a week jobs on here….fake bs…. I’m on San Francisco. I’m guessing Twins didn’t see his Rangers melt down when they brought Ole Sam over. I don’t even like the Tigers and I can tell u that they will be good soon….Mize and Skubal and Manning and Torkelson and Baddoo is a solid young core….and the Mariners with Gilbert and Kirby and Hancock….should be pretty good as well if they all pan out…. Identifying that arm will take some doing. The Giants are having a great season (far above most purists expectations) however to think that their pitching can compete against the NL’s best rotations in the playoffs is absurd even with the addition of another starter they would have the worst rotation in the playoffs…. Teams that were suppose to be great are average or above average and teams that were supposed to be retooling like the Giants and Red Sox are killing it…. The Giants have a stacked farm and the most money to spend in coming years. There is a huge difference in talent missing from both teams….that’s what I was saying above….not that the Giants are bad but that the Dodgers are that good and I am a Braves fan not a Dodgers fan but u can’t be blind to their talent…. Blah blah blah…. Bogaerts and Seager aren’t even close, and Bogaerts could be legitimately labelled a defensive liability. Logos were compiled by the amazing SportsLogos.net. Atlanta Hawks 2021-22 salary cap table, including breakdowns of salaries, bonuses, incentives, cap figures, dead money and more. Maybe the Giants haven’t lost a player who is on the same level as Yelich or or Bellinger, but what they HAVE done is find a replacement for any and every player that HAS lost time, and still manage to win baseball games. Mostly luck….and a fast start while Bellinger has had 20 AB’s this season for the Dodgers and Yelich missed a chunk of time for the Brewers…. You have no credibility until you post at least one stat to back up any of your delusions. So I get why you’re salty, I would be too, but show some constraint…everyone has injuries. Longoria and Stella back soon. I think both those guys could be had for a lot less than the cost of Pat Bailey, though. Yet every expert in the world had LA and SD finishing 1-2 in the NLW…. His ERA went up a whole 19/100s of a point. All images are property the copyright holder and are displayed here for informational purposes only. While the experts have revised their opinion of the Giants based on the data available, you are unable to admit you were wrong. You’re just grasping man. This isn’t 1990 bro (however much you want it to be). Become a Stathead & surf this site ad-free. In baseball, titles are won with pitching and defense (see the Giants’ 2010, ’12, and ’14 WS championship teams as just three of countless examples). He’s “light hitting” to you, I suppose, because he doesn’t hit a lot of HRs? But that has nothing to do with the Giants. No, it makes plenty of sense because that’s the normal state for most teams. Or write about sports? They’re not going to sacrifice their sacred prospects just for this year. I however know that the Dodgers and Padres will finish 1-2 in the division respectively and that the Giants will be lucky to make it as a WC team…. Customized picks for NFL and college football pick’em contests (weekly and season long). He can play both 3B and 1B. However a fast start and other teams like the Padres missing Tatis earlier and Clevinger all season and Lamet for a while or the Dodgers missing Bellinger a perennial MVP caliber player….and the Brewers missing Yelich earlier and the Nats missing Soto….and the Braves missing Fried and Soroka….the list goes on….the Mets have been without Conforto most of the season as well…. A SS is necessary for the Giants because if Crawford or Dubon get hurt, the giants have 0 options at short other than Solano who’s horrific enough defensively at 2B, and Flores who hasn’t even been able to play 3B without looking terrible. I don’t go off of 1 year of success especially in an injury filled season….with many stars out dues to injuries or Covid…. What was prediction for the RSox? You only mention a couple of Giants when you talk about injuries. Unsigned players salaries are estimated based on the last three years of salary data: Every Sports Reference Social Media Account, Site Last Updated: Tuesday, September 21, 3:52AM. Gausman has the makeup of a solid #2 on a good team but has pitched like a 3rd or 4th starter….so his success did not surprise me though I still think he is pitching a bit better than he is….meaning next year he will have a drop off…. He’s just not apart of the Pirates future. You claim that you didn’t say Gausman is a fraud, and then immediately follow that suggesting he is. Gausman has talent I didn’t say that he didn’t….but he is not Buehler or Bauer or Kershaw or Darvish….or Flaherty all bonafide aces…. To know what a player will do before the season even starts etc? I think the concerns are there, yeah,” Kapler said. The Giants don’t need to cash in their farm at the deadline because they are flush with cash. Belt is a light hitting 1B that makes up for it with his glove and Crawford has recently revived his career as he was on a downward spiral the past couple seasons….my point is some of the Giants hitters have never had real success while others have recently revived it in a season filled with injuries to other teams superstars….it’s been a weird season…. My prediction: Dodgers will lose 120 games this year. Bart is tearing up AAA and is Major League ready. For Bart and Bishop plus other prospects they might. Just wait until the farm starts graduating prospects AND we have the most money in the league to spend. Besides, the Giants have had their share of significant injuries too, including Yastrzemski, Belt (current), Longoria (current), and starting second baseman Tommy La Stella (current). To speculate on other potential rotation targets, look no further than our list of top-40 trade targets. Definitely a good farm much better than the past few years but it’s not elite…. It’s baseball. Sorry but the Dodgers will win the west and if the Giants make the playoffs they won’t get far….they relied on pitching in all 3 of their WS wins while having 3 of the worst 10 lineups ever to win a WS….fact. It’s fair to say that there will be regression in the 2nd half…. Your comment is literally “all the stats say this team is legit but because I don’t recognize some of these names they must be bad.”. And yeah, you may not understand my definition of “star” but trust me. I do not like “bad seeds” however of any color…. The official source for sortable MLB player and team stats, including customizable splits and filters. So what’s the difference? You have to actually play the games, and injuries are part of the season. Next year they could be scary….depends on what they do in the off-season FA wise and or on the trade front…. Swartz and MLBTradeRumors.com. Tbf they traded Zac Gallen. ... • A computer estimate at the time projected the 2 millionth run would be … @Brad S….I can agree that Crawford is a top 3 or 4 defensive SS….along with Simmons and Iglesias who’s bats are lighter than Crawford so if u combine offense and defense between the 3 then yes Crawford is the better choice however I would take Bogaerts or Turner or Anderson or Tatis or Seager etc over Crawford even with his glove….because their offensive abilities are far better than Crawford’s whereas their defense isn’t they far behind…. Maybe a 3 way trade. DRS: They aren’t winning a 162 game title period. Those 2 are just 2 examples but I can tell u that there are more….I have other stuff to do so I will leave that here….but as far as the Padres having less chance at the playoffs have u considered that with Clevinger out all season (who is as good as Gausman) and Lamet hurting (also as much talent as Gausman) and losing Tatis for a bit didn’t hurt those chances? And Rich Rod will bring around a top 150 prospect atleast. No. Let’s be clear. Only Posey will be back next year. Yes, Bellinger’s been hurt a lot and played very little. DeScafalini is pitching far above his norm…. If they do they won’t get far….it’s not meant to be….trading prospects for fillers like Tyler Anderson type pitchers would not be wise…. I think the giants are only moving a top 100 prospect if they get a solid controllable vet in return. And if you don’t think you’re biased, look at your comparison. Longoria until this year was a washed-up bad contract….truth…. To be honest there were teams last year in the AFC that didn’t make the playoffs that we’re playing better than the Steelers down the stretch but because the Steelers started off 10-0 they basically clinched a spot in the playoffs….before going 3-3 the rest of the way and 1 and done in the playoffs….which I also called on FB…. Giants are a 85 win team playing like a 95 win team….the Dodgers are banged up…. My point is the players the Giants lost to injuries are far less talented than the other teams lost players…. I’m no mathematician, but the odds of that are pretty slim. Nice comp. I’ll take above average players at every position and on the bench that have a clear advantage relative to who’s pitching. Andy pretty sure he means the upgrades the post suggests not the Giants themselves, Wilmer has been pitching in just fine. Giants non tendered Anderson last season so don’t see a huge reason to pursue him again. Crawford, +30. One of Bailey or Bart is going to be the future 1B for SF, and for either to be pried away, it would take a LOT. Not sure why you bring Yelich into this, but he wasn’t very good in last year’s pandemic-shortened season, and he’s not much – if any – better this season (his home runs per at-bat are way down, his slugging pct is down, and his OPS is about the same). Giants will tweak but no more. I could be wrong but I don’t think so….good luck the rest of the way whoever u follow…. Giants are legit. There’s no better defensive first baseman in the game, yet he – like his namesake teammate Brandon Crawford – gets virtually no mention or attention from so-called “expert” analysts and talking heads throughout the national media. Look at the Giants as a whole over the past few seasons….veterans on the decline now all of a sudden got their groove back okay….lol, Scrubs that no other team wanted are hitting like superstars okay….lol. That’s understandable. “Gausman in a WC Game would be pitching against another teams ace who is probably better”. Players like Flores and Duggar and La Stella and Slater and DeScafalini have never been good….maybe combined they had 2 or 3 decent years….mostly La Stella…. Comparing losing Belt and Flores etc is not the same as losing Soto or Bellinger or Yelich or Conforto or Flaherty or Tatis or Lamet etc. I don’t know. Seager 120 OPS+ If the Giants can match the outcome of those years, then I’m totally fine with rooting for a “subpar” team. If I were a Marlins fan I’d be genuinely offended at the mere suggestion. At the deadline, Far more of FZ’s style, as we’ve seen, would be to acquire a player he wants by simultaneously taking on a bad contract and then unceremoniously dumping the dead weight shortly thereafter. They were barely beating 3rd string QB’s and putting up under 20 pts or so per week so I knew that would collapse…. No point trying to show me up with this seasons anomalies….I’m not arguing that they have played good ball this season…. I think the Dodgers are very talented. Total Zone Rating and initial framework for Wins above Replacement calculations provided by Sean Smith. Everyone brought their stack of cards and we would trade etc….but I had to add up each teams stats every day for years before the internet did it for me….that said I understand stats and trends etc…. I can remember how many HR’s Jim Rice had in 1977…. It’s people like u who think Longoria is better than Turner lol….nope. @Tad2b13….oh I get it now….u are going off of 1 season of success during an injury filled season at that….with teams down done major stars due to injuries or Covid…. And don’t hurt your arm patting yourself on the back for recognizing something most people were aware of, that the Steelers record was illusory. If the Brewers make it I would bet on Burnes or Woodruff…. LaMonte is going to continue to improve over there with more reps, but we’re going to really miss Brandon as a defender.”. pitching and defense have been the mantra. I wouldnt want any of those guys starting a playoff game. That’s most likely because their best players are in low A at thos point. What are you talking about? As commissioner in my mid teens I had to add up each teams stats using a newspaper before internet etc…. 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