This one is a favorite campfire argument, one which will probably have no end. I chose the Bergara B14 Ridge in 7mm Rem Mag. Report. There are caveats to that. Does the perfect muley cartridge really exist? Both calibers are popular, but Federal lists 35 varieties of .30-06 and only 22 kinds of 7mm Rem. So why pay the extra money? It would be years before he’d look past the .308 or .30-30 WCF, and admit the merits of the .300 Magnums; hunting moose and caribou in Quebec inspired the purchase of a .300 Winchester Magnum and a .300 Remington Ultra Magnum. The .30-calibers use bullets weighing between 100 or 110 grains (usually reserved for the .30 M1 Carbine) and 220 grains, with the extremes as heavy as 250 grains. Mag. actually preceded it by 18 years. I have not tried the PPU 7mm Rem Mag brass yet. My favorite hunting rifle is an old Ruger M77 with a tang safety in 7mm Rem Mag. With premium bullets, the traditional 7mms like the .280 Remington and 7mm Remington Magnum are wonderful performers, and are better than they’ve ever been, but the additional weight, selection of projectiles and rampant availability of the .30-caliber cartridges present an advantage. When it comes to ballistics, shootability, and versatility, which caliber emerges victorious? I love to carry the 243, but with just buying my 7mm I am very currious about being able to load it down to 280 caliber recoil. Reply. Using bullets of the same weight, the 7mm Rem. “It’s got bullets from 110 grains to 220 grains and will kill whatever you point it at. John A. Nosler: Notice the Top Left Hand Corner ... No other actions were long enough, so I shortened the 300 case to 30-06 length and formed it to take the .284 diameter bullet. Its in a Manners T4A stock, Bartlein 1-8 twist, 30 inch heavy varmint, shootin g195gr Bergers. Mag. It is based on the non-belted .26 Nosler case (itself based on a cut-down Remington Ultra Mag case) necked-up to accept 7mm (.284") bullets. usually starts to pull away at longer ranges. Nosler and Hornady load both 7mm Remington Magnum and .280 Ackley ammunition; looking at their data you’ll see a difference of 90 to 100 fps between the two, with the belted 7mm Magnum giving the higher velocities (with a 162-grain Hornady ELD-X, the 7mm Mag. 30-378 Wby Mag. 7mm Magnum Showdown: 7mm Rem. Sundra, along with a good number of gunwriters, sang the praises of various 7mm cartridges—not that I was ever exposed to them in my youth—but I would be in my 20s before I’d have any experience with a 7mm. Nosler developed this cartridge to equal or exceed both the 7mm Weatherby and 7mm Remington Ultra-Mag plus fit into a .30-06-length action. Mag. Nosler developed this cartridge to equal or exceed both the 7mm Weatherby and 7mm Remington Ultra-Mag plus fit into a .30-06-length action. If I were thinking of only one gun for everything it would be the 7mm or actually even better the 30-06. 30 Caliber.310” Diameter. Mag.’s ballistic advantage. Mag. You can then use a Magnum length action where you can have a COAL to at least 3.650" long (actions that accept cartridges like the 7mm Rem Ultra Mag). My dad joined the National Guard in 1968—just out of high school at the height of the Vietnam War—and during basic training became enamored with the performance of the 7.62x51mm NATO. The Surge in Gun and Ammo Sales Has Created a Boom in Wildlife Conservation Funding . But like everything Nosler puts out, it’s a .270 caliber taken to the limits. You have to do the work yourself. A .208 AI would be about the same as the .284 Win loaded right. 7.62x39. It still seems that every new hunting rifle that is released is initially available in .30-06 Springfield; it remains a staple in our industry. I took my first real deer with that rifle on that afternoon, sending a 140-grain Core-Lokt and anchoring a mature eight-point whitetail. Looking for previous installments of our "Head to Head" series? The U.S. Army went four-in-a-row with .30-caliber cartridges, starting with the .30-40 Krag, then the .30-03 Springfield, quickly changing to the .30-06 Springfield, ending with the 7.62x51mm NATO, or .308 Winchester. Mule Deer Cartridge Showdown: .270 Win. (note the max charge of 63 grains and 3002 fps in the .30-06) 3066 fps via RL-25, a thoroughly modern powder 3077 fps via MAGPRO - which I must admit, I've never used The up-to-date 7mm WSM attempts to keep up with the 7mm Rem mag as follows: 7mm rem mag is good, but higher chance to hit and still run Since they are such popular bullet sizes used by other cartridges like the 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Ackley Improved, .308 Winchester, and .30-06 Springfield, and 30o PRC, there … 8 | 10 | 12. 3rd installment in my caliber vs caliber series. I have hunted with a 7mm Rem Mag and a 7mmSTW. out of an unbelted case, and fits into .30-’06 Sprg.-length actions. Mag. The 7mm Rem Mag is popular for a good reason. I know some very tough brass is available for the 300 win. from Federal costs $1.95 per round for a box of 20 while the .30-06 is only $1.30 per round for 20. Upon returning home, at the ripe old age of 19, he purchased a Mossberg Model 800A bolt-action .308 Winchester, which still shoots very well in spite of a half-century of hard service. But if I’m recommending a big game cartridge to a new hunter for a wide variety of game at both short and long distance, I’m going with the 7mm Rem. This is one of the easier matchups I’ve had to call in the Caliber Battle series. This range is ideal for medium to big game, including all the animals listed above. Problem solved. Jon Sundra, who’s been writing articles longer than I've been alive, is one. In his excellent handbook, “Cartridges of the World,” Frank C. Barnes describes the .30-06 Springfield with the kind of reverence usually reserved for religion, mom’s cooking, and secret hunting spots. I … Both calibers can push a 150- to 165-grain bullet about 3,000 fps at the muzzle, which is always devastating at ranges inside of 200 yards. Mountain Goat Hunting: 7mm Rem Mag by John A. Nosler September 29, 2015 / Nosler Inc / Nosler Info. I have my my .30-06 set up as more of a general purpose and close range rifle for overseas whereas my 7mm rem mag is solely a longer range rifle. is usually 100 to 200 feet-per-second (fps) faster at the muzzle than the .30-caliber pill. vs. 7mm Rem. Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:27 pm . Federal Premium’s line featuring the legendary Nosler Partition will very likely fit the bill for those looking for some seriously heavy hitting 7mm Rem Mag ammo for elk, moose, or bear hunting.Loaded with a 160 grain Nosler Partition bullet, this load is perfect for hunting really big game where it’s really important to use a heavy, well constructed bullet. But, if I have to choose a more versatile caliber, the winner is the .30-06. vs. .300 WSM• .223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. The .30-06 also slightly edges out the 7mm Rem. Mag. Using bullets of the same weight, the 7mm Rem. It will get a VX5 3x15x44 and I will be working up a 160g Accubond load for it. According to Nosler, the 7mm Rem Mag, with a 160 gr bullet: 3058 fps via 63 grains of RL-22! 7rem mag is dated. It seemed like the best compromise between what I already had and a the 30 Nosler I was looking at. Advocates of the .30-06 will argue that the older caliber can be loaded with heavier bullets (up to about 220 grains), which gives it the edge on heavier game at closer distances. Never saw the need for the added horse power of the 7 STW so I sold it and stayed with the 7 mm Rem Mag. I don't own a 30 Nosler, but I've shot a Nosler M48 "Long Range" rifle chambered in that round and was really impressed. Mule Deer Cartridge Showdown: .270 Win. This means that the momentum of a rifle's reaction will exactly equal the momentum of the bullet and powder gasses ejected from the barrel. As a magnum cartridge, the 7mm Rem. The .30-06 produces a similar recoil impulse, but it is slightly less than the 7mm. Though the .270 Winchester and .30-06 Springfield are both wonderful cartridges that have been incredibly popular with hunters since they were first introduced at the beginning of the 20th Century, gun designers never stopped looking for ways to improve upon the performance of those two old war horses. 300 aac blackout 300 savage 308 winchester 30-06 springfield 30-06 springfield ack 30-338 (no fit) 308 norma mag 300 win mag 300 h&h mag 30 nosler 300 rem ultra mag 300 wby mag 300 prc (no fit) 10. The sectional density of the 7mm bullets of comparable weight gives them an advantage over the .30s, though the additional weight and frontal diameter of the .30 caliber projectiles swing the pendulum back the other way. I have two 7X57's, a 7mm Rem Mag, 7mm STW and a 28 Nosler. My time with the 7mms has been mostly spent with the 140-, 150- and 160-grain bullets, as they offer the most flexibility. We put 3 popular cartridges to a head-to-head-to-head test. I’ve used the 125-grain bullets in my .308 Winchester, and the 220-grain round nosed slugs in my .300 Winchester Magnum, both with good effect, but the majority of my time has been spent with the 150-, 165- and 180-grain .30s. A 28" 7mm-300 win mag with a max load of H-1000 and a 195 Berger with a MV of 2950 fps. 8mm (8x57) 8mm-06. According to Chuck Hawks’ recoil table, the 7mm Rem. is usually 100 to 200 feet-per-second (fps) faster at the muzzle than the .30-caliber pill. 7mm Rem Ultra Mag 120 Grain; 7mm Rem Ultra Mag 140 Grain; I could make that same argument here, but I’m not going to. Mag.• .30-06 Springfield vs. .270 Winchester• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 8x57 Mauser vs. .318 Westley Richards• .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum• .22-250 Remington vs. .220 Swift• .270 Winchester vs. .270 WSM• .26 Nosler vs. 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum• .458 Win. They don't offer anything that I can't get from the Rem. Shooting 180s it had very similar recoil to my 7mm Rem. Technical hunting apparel and purpose-built gear for the avid hunter. Let me know if you have any questions or requests. Ballistics is a powerhouse in its own right and it has become increasingly popular since its introduction in 1962. Mag. But what about when we match bullet types? Think, pronghorn, mule, and fallow deer. For most hunters, I don’t think the .30-06’s other good points are enough to outweigh the 7mm Rem. Generally speaking, the 7mm is loaded with bullets with higher ballistic coefficients, which allows it to shoot flatter and maintain velocity at longer distances. Page 1 of 1 [ 12 posts ] Previous topic | Next topic : Author Message; Greg Nolan Post subject: WTB 7mm Rem Mag brass. Barnes makes exactly this point when he dismisses the 7mm Rem. It will get a VX5 3x15x44 and I will be working up a 160g Accubond load for it. Looking at sheer availability, you can’t really get more popular than the .308 Winchester and .30-06 Springfield, and no 7mm will compare with the volume of ammo available. Mag. has the .30-06 beat—but just barely. 300 Win. Jeremy Hornady, Nosler, Norma? If you are determined to use the 7mm bullets look at the 280 rem, 280 improved, and 284 win. The MeatEater Newsletter has our picks for the week's best hunting, fishing, wild foods, and conservation content along with special deals and recommendations for subscribers. I also know hunters and shooters who are equally fervent about the 7mm bore diameter. We are now conversant in … I think the recoil is heavier than a 30-06 I was tearing up too much meat with the lighter bullets on medium sized game and switched to the factory premium 175 grain loads. The Nosler is running about $75 shipped for 50 pieces but I hate to shoot so many different brands of brass. The 160-grain Federal Trophy Bonded Tip works wonderfully in my .280 AI, the 140-grain Nosler AccuBond is perfect for the Tikka T3x Lite 7mm-08 Remington I take to the Catskill Mountains, and I had a ball using a Rigby Highland Stalker in .275 Rigby with Hornady’s 140-grain InterLock load. I agree with except that a a 7mm Rem Mag with the Nosler 160 grain accubonds will have about 1,800 fps and 1,150 foot pounds of energy at 700 max yards. 8mm mauser (8x57) 8mm-06 8mm rem mag. per sec. Mag.• .404 Jeffery vs. .416 Rigby• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Creedmoor• .300 PRC vs. .300 Win. And the Winner Is… 7mm Rem Mag vs 300 Win Mag – Most Popular Rounds As we come to the end of our review, we will like to share some of the best rounds that are perfect for certain applications: We chose the HSM Berger 168gr magnum for the Remington cartridge because it is a heavyweight, ideal for hunting purposes, and makes the handling of recoil easy. The 28 Nosler fits into a standard long action. Here is part of Nosler's press release about their new baby: For 2015 Nosler, located in Bend Oregon, introduced a new 7mm Magnum cartridge, the .28 Nosler. Remember, you can always load down but you cannot load up (at least not much in the small calibers). A few years later, he added a Winchester Model 100 autoloader—again in .308 Winchester—for additional firepower on deer drives. The 7mm, on the other hand, only drops 72 inches at 600 yards and is still travelling above 1,800 fps at 700 yards, making it a better choice for long-range work. After winning two world wars, it quickly became one of America’s most popular hunting cartridges, and it’s been used to take virtually every game animal on the continent. By Chuck Hawks. Wide ammo availability is a plus for guys stuck with factory ammo. In last week’s caliber battle, I gave the nod to the .308 Win. This original 7mm gave rise to the 30-06 and all subsequent cartridges based on it, but it also inspired a lot of other 7mm rounds. Its quite overbore, but that's never scared me before. Mag. Guns. over the .270 Win because I liked the .308’s versatility and shootability. Mag.• .300 RSAUM vs. .300 WSM• .500 Jeffrey vs. .505 Gibbs• 7mm RUM vs. .300 RUM• .308 Winchester vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .260 Remington• .303 British vs. 8x57 Mauser• .30-06 Springfield vs. All Other .30s• .17 HMR vs. .17 WSM• .450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express• 350 Legend vs. .35 Remington• .280 Ackley Improved vs. 7mm Rem. Mag. 7mm Magnum Showdown: 7mm Rem. As far as the 7mm being enough bullet? The 7mm Rem Mag overall length is slightly smaller than the .300 Win Mag – 3.34 inches against 3.29 inches. Most folks stay in the middle of the bullet weight spectrum, meaning that the most popular in 7mm will be between 120 and 160 grains, and the most popular .30s will be 150-200 grains. If you’re the type of hunter who wants just one big-game rifle—and there is nothing wrong with that—I definitely give the advantage to the .30 caliber. I would go on to embrace the 7mm-08 Remington, the .275 Rigby/7x57mm Mauser and the .280 Ackley Improved over the years, all giving more than satisfactory performance in the field and at the bench. vs. .28 Nosler vs. 7mm RUM The U.S.A. hasn’t fully adopted the metric system, but our shooters and hunters have. 7mm Rem. And .308 isn’t 7.62mm, it’s 7.82mm. It shoots farther, hits harder, and recoils with more violence than the Weatherby. The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester Magnum—eclipsing the round in all three testing categories. And because the 30 Nosler has a belt-less case, it’s more accurate and makes for easier reloading. Federal offers .30-06 options ranging from 125 grains to 220 grains, and ammunition can be found with bullets ranging from 100 grains to 250 grains. Mag. Bullets in the 100- to 130-grain range can be used for varmints and predators, 150 to 165 grains for deer, antelope, goats, sheep, and black bear, and 165 to 220 grains for elk, moose, and brown bear. I would be surprised if you found it lacking. October 2, 2019. Latest. I will base my decision on whether or not you’re the hunter who intends to pair your choice with a big-bore rifle: if you’re looking at a .35 Whelen or .375 H&H to do the heavy work—or if largest species are truly off the menu—the 7mm will certainly handle the responsibilities of the medium-caliber rifle. vs. .340 Wby. But at 600 yards, the .30-06 has reached a velocity too slow for reliable expansion (1,800 fps) and has dropped about 86 inches. Shooting 180s it had very similar recoil to my 7mm Rem. Rigby renamed the 7x57mm to the .275 Rigby, and Holland & Holland had a .275 H&H Magnum in 1912, months prior to the .375 H&H Magnum; the 7mm bullet diameter was here to stay. 10. Mag. Mag. Reloading Information. Except for a few outliers, the majority of hunters will use these calibers in bolt-action rifles to pursue the same medium to big game category of animals. 30/06 with 180g Partition, 190g Nosler LRAB with R#26 7 Mag with 175g LRAB with R#26 Elk have got a lot stouter than when I used a 7x57 with 140g Sierra flat base and 7 Mag with 140g Nosler ballistic tips. Free shipping and returns on 7mm Rem Ultra Mag 120 Grain; 7mm Rem Ultra Mag 140 Grain; 7mm Rem Ultra Mag 150 Grain;
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